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9/14 Bench

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:50 am
by SGreene_700
9/14 bench @ Powerstation
worked up to 405X3 raw
added shirt
500x3 no brds
585X2 3brd
655X2 2brd
685x2 2brd
incline dumbells
100x12...lol
done. I felt strong in the shirt but the right shoulder is just alittle unhappy. I'm gonna lay off the heavier raw stuff when Im by myself next week. Maybe I'll just do some dumbells. I only did 1 set of the incline dumbells cuz I was toast and shaking like a dog $hittin razor blades ( just a metaphorical sayin' NO Michael Vick...I love dogs). But regardless incline dumbells are great for stabilizers and lats and I hadnt done'em ( incline dumbells) in a lonnng long time definately something I need to work back in regularly maybe alternate it with the raw barbell work when Im by myself.

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:24 am
by Rob Luyando
Steve loose the 3 brd. You are wwasting a set doing 3 brds with a shirt on. Otherwise nice work!
I agree Rob

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:00 am
by SGreene_700
Yeah Rob I agree the 3brd is a waste but the 500 w/no brds could be considered a waste also. But I do the 500 no brds and 585w/3brd just for the sake of getting in "reps" since I only get to "shirt up" with my powerstation family every other week. Plus remember the level I'm at, Im not you...lol. I wear this shirt all the way up just to get 725-735 to touch. So if I dropped the 500 w/no brds and the 3 brd my workout would look like this:
655x2 2brd (655 is the lightest weight Ive got to a 2brd with the shirt all the way up...maybe I could touch with 635???)
685x2 2brd
LOL...4 reps aint gonna cut it for every other week and 1hr. and 15 minute drive each way. Im not strong enuff yet like you to go:
655X2 2brd
685X2 2brd
735x2 2brd
785X2 2brd.......maybe next year but I have'nt even benched 735 yet.
My point i think I should be getting in 8-10 "total" reps in my shirt even if my first 4 are "ghey". Now if you're suggesting maybe smaller jumps and go:
up to 405 raw
635X2 2brd
655X2 2brd
685X2 2brd
705X2 2brd
I could do that. But Paul says small jumps are "ghey" also...lol. Like Arhhnuld says "I get a lot of adviccces"......so I dont know what to think sometimes. All you damn pros have conflicting theories....lol...I think its just so I'll stay confused and always suck...j/k....I know you're trying to help and I appreciate it.
Re: 9/14 Bench

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:15 pm
by RevTodd
Steve, how much of an incline do you like to use for incline DB press?
hey

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:31 pm
by SGreene_700
Hey Rev I'd say its closer to 30 degrees than 45. The lower incline will allow you to use your lats as supporters versus a steeper incline which would hit more shoulders. Whenever I go away from incline for a long time and them come back to'em whether dumbells or barbell my lats gets sore the first few times. I never feel sore in my lats on flat, but I've learned the more I get my lats involved whether incline or flat I become much stronger.
I'm gonna alternate these with my raw barbell stuff when I'm training by myself . I have been doing some good flat dumbell work (with palms facing) with bands the past few months. But the incline dumbells exploited the weakness in my my stabilizer muscles much much more. It was either weakness or total fatigue from the shirt work but I have a feeling it was a little of both.

Posted:
Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:02 pm
by Rob Luyando
Steve Paul is gay so there is nothing wrong with smaller jumps. Try making 15 lbs jumps and get 4-6 working setts in and then if you want drop down to a lighter weight like the 500 to practice ful range. Just a suggestion.
9/18 Back bis

Posted:
Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:20 am
by SGreene_700
9/18 back,bis,rears
Pulldowns
5 sets
Cheat chins
8 green
6 purp
6 purp
4 no bands
band rows
4 sets
pullaparts
3 sets
mm rear delts
3 sets
hammers curlz
25x12
35x10
45x10
55x8
preacher hammers
20x10
30x10
40x10
4 sets of pushdowns
done. rushed. work sux..lol.
9/20

Posted:
Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:05 pm
by SGreene_700
9/20
Incline dumbell presses
40x15
70x12
95x12
120x10
120x11
120x12
80x20
reverse band rows
5 sets
green band rows
4 sets
band pullaaparts
4 sets
rear delts w/mm
3 sets
ghey band presses for shoulder
cuff work
ton of band pushdowns
Done. Much better on the inclines today but of course I hadnt done shirt work before them. They felt better with each set, I havent done these prolly since Rob hit 705 2 years, I like the change up.

Posted:
Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 pm
by Bencher8
I have been doing htese too...although I can't go that heavy on them. They hit that spot right where I tore that tendon, so I only go up to 70-80's on them. Should be some access work to help stabilize the top for me...
MOn 9/24

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:43 am
by SGreene_700
Mon 9/24
Pulldowns
5 sets
reverse band rows
5 sets
dumbells shrugs
4 sets
Band rows
5 sets
high face pulls
4 sets
hammer curls
25x12
35x12
45x10
55x10
preacher hammer cirls
20x12
30x12
40x8
pushdowns. first night of thirds

bench powerstation

Posted:
Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:30 pm
by SGreene_700
bench Powerstation
warmed up to 315x3 raw
added shirt
405x2 no brd
495x2 no brd
585x1 3brd
655x1 2brd
705x1 1brd
735x0 no brd
Done. I didnt really wanna go to the chest but I let that damn Smitty talk me into it...lol. I got the 735 about 3/4 way up but grooved it too high. I do this alot, whether boards or no boards I tend to want to groove higher (in my raw groove) than lower (a shirt groove). As we all know, grooving it lower makes the lift easier in a shirt. A HUGEEE part of it for ME is the liftoff needs to be out there above my "touchpoint" almost uncomfortable, almost like Im gonna dump it. Because then I can just focus on taking my breath and tucking. When I take the weight more on my shoulders instead of my lats , and I have to place where the bar goes laterally, I tend to to groove higher which makes it a lot tougher than it should be. This is by far the biggest issue with my geared benching, which I'll work on in the off season.

Posted:
Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:17 pm
by RevTodd
I hear ya, Steve... I tend to do the same thing. When I get the handoff right and the groove locked in everything just clicks and the lift seems comparatively effortless. Too bad that doesn't happen more often, LOL!

Posted:
Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:12 am
by Rob Luyando
You mean lifts are supose to be effortless? Hell I thought you had to grind the weight from the chest all the way up? LOL!

Posted:
Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:26 pm
by RevTodd
Rob Luyando wrote:You mean lifts are supose to be effortless? Hell I thought you had to grind the weight from the chest all the way up? LOL!
That's just for freaks like you that seem to keep pushing come Hell or high water! For us mere mortals, we have to hit that groove right and rely on a bit of speed and momentum!!!

10/16

Posted:
Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:34 am
by SGreene_700
10/16
Reverse close grip pulldowns
4 sets
reverse band rows on bench (blue)
4 sets
dumbell shrugs
4 sets
dumbell rows
50x12
60x12
70x12
80x12
rear delt work w/mm
3 sets
high face pulls w/purple
3 sets
10 sets of bicep crap
some band pushdowns
Done. felt good to be make in the gym.
10/19

Posted:
Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:27 am
by SGreene_700
10/19
brockenstein speed workout (took mm band and doubled under dumbells and put them behind the powerrack; you can view this setup on EFS)
barx15
95x12
135x10
135x10
185x8
225x2x8
standing pulldowns green band
4 sets
dumbell shrugs
120x20x3
band pullaparts (purp)
3 sets
standing green band presses (this is more for the cuffs than anything)
more cuff work w/light dumbells
8 sets of band pushdowns
Done.
10/22

Posted:
Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:54 am
by SGreene_700
10/22
Close grip reverse pulldowns
4x12
Blue Band pulldowns
4x12
Yanks
120x12x3
Pullaparts purple
3x15
Standing band rows green
3x15
High face pulls w/purp
3x15
rear delts w/dumbell
35x12x3
lots of cuff work in between sets
Alternating curlz
25x12
35x12
45x12
55x12
one arm preacher curls
25x12x3
4 sets of band pushdowns
Done!
10/26

Posted:
Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:46 am
by SGreene_700
10/26
Back with the powerstation crew
worked up tp 650 on reverse bands raw. i would guess about a 200lb. deload at the bottom. Shoulder still a little jacked up but hopefully I can continue to work thru it.
Did some tate presses with the barbell while in the rev.band rack
315x12
365x12
405x15
Good to be back, gonna take it easier for awhile, but not very long. I want 2008 to be much better than 2007 and with only being able to shirt up twice a month. I really can't afford to be out the of the shirt too long ; plus I felt like I was just staritng to make some "true" progresss and the season was over for me.
10/30 Back stuff

Posted:
Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:36 am
by SGreene_700
10/30
wide grip pulldowns
6 sets...the first few were very light
chins
bwx6x3
face pulls
3x12
Reverse band rows
4 sets
standing green band rows
3 sets
one arm rear delts
35x12x3
alt. curls
30x12
40x12
50x8
60x8
one arm preacher curls
20x12
25x12
30x12
cuff stuff inbetween
band pushdowns
4 sets
Done.
11/02

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:20 pm
by SGreene_700
11/02
Incline dumbells
40x15
40x12
70x12
100x12
120x12
120x12
120x13
Key press
40x12x3
Green band rows
4 sets
rear delts mm band
4 sets
band pullaparts
4 sets
8 sets of band pushdowns
Done! The key presses were great for loosening the shoulders after the incline work. My right shoulder is still alittle jacked up on the back side, i'm thinking the infraspinatus is alittle strained cuz its not impairing my strength a lot but the pain is definately there. wwwaaahhhh..lol.